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Post by lavellansfancycoat on Jul 26, 2016 14:34:23 GMT
Hey people this is the first chapter of what was once a short story that grew in the telling. In terms on content think Blade Runner or Ghost in the Shell but nowhere near as good. I'm looking for general criticism but I often find myself writing plot devices and not people so critique of characterisation would be appreciated. Thanks in advance and I hope you enjoy. Content warnings: Alcohol, Mild blood, Implied gore docs.google.com/document/d/1_bWCKUSRbra-3Z5S66ipGwECC9yvmFYtFB6hh1dbFZM/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by alynshirslover on Jul 26, 2016 15:13:54 GMT
Okay! So at the exact moment I can't do a full fledged response but if you like I can do one later with like, pulling lines and stuff. What I noticed overall though - you have the thing about worldbuilding that I love, "chromey" and "meatspace" and all the slang-type words that made it feel realistic and not overly out of place. However, this is kinda thrown off (or was for me) by how verbose you are. It's not bad to write with all the lovely words that you're writing with, and it certainly does the job painting a picture vividly, but the same effect can be achieved through simpler words or the like. I found my eyes skipping a sentence here and there because it was just too much information and I wanted the scene to progress. This got better later on when the focus of the scene switched to dialogue, and I (personally) think that better suits the nature of your characters, who are presumably used to this sci-fi environment and don't need oodles of description. There's definitely a time and place for how wonderfully you can describe things, but I think that time is for when your characters are faced with the unknown and not something that's more everyday. Like how we look at electric lights like 'oh, that's a light', but someone from a thousand years ago would be amazed and might have significantly more to say on the matter. Also - you were worried more about your characterisation, and I see what you mean by plot devices versus people, and that's definitely a good thing to look for! but aside from what I assume is a set up for 'let's get Susan prosthesis', I liked both of your characters. There was a thing about Susan in particular that I personally think really helped make her a person versus a plot device, and it's that you mentioned she usually has a wry smile on. It gives her a facet of personality that really I think helps; it gives me the impression that perhaps she's a more sarcastic-leaning person as opposed to a ray of pure sunshine and happiness. I could be wrong! But that's the impression I got from her based on that alone. I'd like to know more about Tommy as a person too - you mentioned something about his little slice of London, and I want to know more about what his life in "meatspace" was like, or is like, or etcetera. I can go back in later, and pull more stuff if you like and be really obnoxiously nitpicky, as I do, but overall I really did like it and I'm very intrigued to see what happens next.
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Post by Mod Dorito on Jul 26, 2016 15:29:50 GMT
I've spoken to you personally about the things I love about this but they bear repeating; the grubbiness of the setting, the throwback to early internet DIY communities, the suggestion of different tech being available to different socioeconomic classes. I second Katie's point about the wordiness of your prose- you use great descriptors, but arguably a few too many of them. It slows the pace a little, and in punky sci-fi like this sharp pace can be everything. There's a Neil Gaiman short story called The Return of the Thin White Duke that I think you could look at for some tips - it does an amazing picture of painting a beautiful hyper-weird setting but Gaiman's economy of prose, as always, really shines through. Although the piece has a lot of heavy adjectives and long run-on sentences they say enough within them to not come off as excessive. Check it out if you have time.
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Post by lavellansfancycoat on Jul 26, 2016 15:49:07 GMT
First of all thanks for the advice bud(s), it's really great to hear that people like the world building and are interested in where the narrative is headed. Also I think some of the overly descriptive parts are due mostly to me getting to know the setting for myself as I write mixed in with my own pretentious ass way of speaking so I'll try and curb that in future. Also always glad to extend my library so I'll be sure to check out a collection with that story. Finally it'd be cool if you (Alynshirslover) could get "obnoxiously nitpicky" at some point so I can see where I dun fucked up but honestly that's a lot of effort so I shan't insist .
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Post by Mod Dorito on Jul 26, 2016 17:09:51 GMT
The name of the short story in my last reply is a link if you wanted to read online, otherwise it's in his collection Trigger Warning (def worth reading anyway).
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